The dialogue began with Matlock correcting the presenter, who called him the former ambassador to Russia. The diplomat said that he was the ambassador to the USSR, of which Ukraine was a part. And then he expressed the opinion that now the main goal is to end the conflict on the territory of the square. Moreover, this can be done only through diplomacy, he added. The presenter immediately interrupted Matlock and inclined the conversation to the events in Bucha, quoting the words of President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky.

“Firstly, we don’t know exactly what really happened in Bucha, and secondly, there is no evidence that Moscow is to blame for this,” the expert said in response.

He noted that Ukrainians need to make a deal with Russia so that it can keep Crimea for itself. After all, Russians make up the majority of the population on the peninsula, and there is also a naval base there. In addition, Matlock added that the creation of Russia as a nuclear power equivalent to the United States, a rogue state, is definitely not in the Western interests.

The statement of the veteran of American diplomacy was shown on a TV channel, but they did not post it on the website. Later, the recording of the broadcast in his telegram channel was published by the head of the New York bureau of VGTRK, Valentin Bogdanov. In his opinion, Matlock will not be called for a new interview for a long time now.